G-SYNC 101: G-SYNC Fullscreen vs. Borderless/Windowed


DWM Woes?

Requested by swarna in the Blur Busters Forums, is a scenario that investigates the effects of the DWM (Desktop Windows Manager, “Aero” in Windows 7) on G-SYNC in borderless and windowed mode.

Unlike exclusive fullscreen, which bypasses the DWM composition entirely, borderless and windowed mode rely on the DWM, which, due to its framebuffer, adds 1 frame of delay. The DWM can’t be disabled in Windows 10, and uses it’s own form of triple buffer V-SYNC (very similar to Fast Sync) that overrides all standard syncing solutions when borderless or windowed mode are in use.

To make sure this was the case, all combinations of NVCP and in-game V-SYNC, as well as the Windows 10 “Game Mode” and “fullscreen optimization” settings were tested to see if DWM could be disabled, and tearing could be introduced; it could not be, so Game Mode and fullscreen optimizations were disabled once again, and NVCP V-SYNC was re-enabled across scenarios for consistency’s sake.

The question is, does DWM add 1 frame of delay with G-SYNC using borderless and windowed mode?

Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings

Overwatch, shows that, no, with G-SYNC enabled, both borderless and windowed mode do not add 1 frame of delay over exclusive fullscreen. Standalone “V-SYNC,” however, does show the expected 1 frame of delay.

CS:GO was also tested for corroboration, and ought to have the same results, as DWM behavior is at the OS-level and should remain unchanged, regardless of the game…

Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings

Sure enough, again, G-SYNC sees no added delay, and V-SYNC sees the expected 1 frame of delay.

Further testing may be required, but it appears on the latest public build of Windows 10 with out-of-the-box settings (with or without “Game Mode”), G-SYNC somehow bypasses the 1 frame of delay added by the DWM. That said, I still don’t suggest borderless or windowed mode over exclusive fullscreen due to the 3-5% decrease in performance, but if these findings are true across configurations, it great news for games that only offer a borderless windowed option, or for multitaskers with secondary monitors.



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higorhigorhigor
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higorhigorhigor

In my tests with the AMD RX 6750 XT, an LG 180hz IPS monitor, on both Linux and Windows 11, I noticed that when I cap the FPS at 60, for example, in scenarios that could deliver 160 uncapped, what happens is that my GPU significantly reduces its clock speeds, and this creates instability in frame production, causing the refresh rate to fluctuate widely.

On Linux, in LACT (a program for managing GPUs on Linux), I created a profile for the specific game and activated a performance level option that keeps the clock speeds higher. This completely solved the problem that occurs when I limit the FPS far below what my GPU can produce.

On Windows, I haven’t found a similar option to this, but I also haven’t looked much since I’m not using Windows a lot. I came here to comment, so that in case you weren’t aware of this, it might help other users who feel they have this VRR disengagement issue even when the FPS seems stable in RTSS.

COLEDED
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COLEDED

Thanks for the detailed guide. Sorry if this is a mostly unrelated question, I ask because the power plan is mentioned in the conclusion section.

My default Window’s “High performance” plan puts my minimum processor state at 0% for some reason.

Is it a good idea to just use Bitsum’s highest performance plan from park control, which sets the Minimum processor state at 100%, all of the time? I haven’t seen an increase in idle CPU power consumption or utilization after changing to this profile

Does this setting actually changes anything?

PODDAH
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PODDAH

Before you read this, I’m sorry for wasting your time if this question has already been answered in the article or in the comments. I tried to read everything to the best of my ability and still am a bit confused because my English is not the best.

Hey, I’m just writing this to make sure that I’m using the best setting. I have adaptive sync on in my monitor’s settings, which enables me to use G-Sync, and then I have G-Sync compatible enabled and V-Sync enabled too on in NCP, and the preferred refresh rate is at application controlled. I tried checking the delay and everything in Fortnite, because it has a setting which lets me do that. This gives me the least amount of delay, and even if I change my preferred refresh rate to the highest available, it still pretty much gives the same delay. I also have my FPS cap in Fortnite set to 144 just in case. I tried other things, and either they give me screen tearing or more delay. I only have one question: is this good enough to get the least amount of delay without getting any screen tearing?

CyclesOfJosh
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CyclesOfJosh

Hi there! I just stumbled upon this through a YouTube comment section, thank you so much for your hard work!

I was about to test the optimal settings in Overwatch when I noticed that in the Nvidia settings, there is a second option for V-Sync called “Fast”.
Is there any information on how that interacts with G-Sync and if it will have the same effect as it does with regular V-Sync? Would love to see if there’s more information on this!

kdog1998
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kdog1998

I have a question about my monitors VRR and if you know if there’s a fix for this or if I possibly have a bad monitor?

I have on G sync as recommended by you, using a Riva Tuner fps cap of 60 for final fantasy xvi. I have a perfectly flat frame time graph per riva tuner, but my game feels extremely jittery when I move around, especially when moving the camera. I figured out that my monitors on screen display that shows what it’s refreshing at is constantly bouncing around when using g sync and adaptive sync on. It will bounce from 60 to 52 to 67 to 48 to 180 (which is my max refresh) back to 60 to 77 and etc.. so despite my game holding a locked in 60 fps with a flat frame time graph, my monitor doesn’t seem to be refreshing at 60 and it seems to be bouncing around.

Is this normal? Or did I just happen to get a bad monitor or graphics card? My monitor is the ASUS VG27AQ3A, I have had it for about 6 months and have been thinking from the beginning something may be off with it. Any help would be great!

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