G-SYNC 101: In-game vs. External FPS Limiters


Closer to the Source*

*As of Nvidia driver version 441.87, Nvidia has made an official framerate limiting method available in the NVCP; labeled “Max Frame Rate,” it is a CPU-level FPS limiter, and as such, is comparable to the RTSS framerate limiter in both frametime performance and added delay. The Nvidia framerate limiting solutions tested below are legacy, and their results do not apply to the “Max Frame Rate” limiter.

Up until this point, an in-game framerate limiter has been used exclusively to test FPS-limited scenarios. However, in-game framerate limiters aren’t available in every game, and while they aren’t required for games where the framerate can’t meet or exceed the maximum refresh rate, if the system can sustain the framerate above the refresh rate, and a said option isn’t present, an external framerate limiter must be used to prevent V-SYNC-level input lag instead.

In-game framerate limiters, being at the game’s engine-level, are almost always free of additional latency, as they can regulate frames at the source. External framerate limiters, on the other hand, must intercept frames further down the rendering chain, which can result in delayed frame delivery and additional input latency; how much depends on the limiter and its implementation.

RTSS is a CPU-level FPS limiter, which is the closest an external method can get to the engine-level of an in-game limiter. In my initial input lag tests on my original thread, RTSS appeared to introduce no additional delay when used with G-SYNC. However, it was later discovered disabling CS:GO’s “Multicore Rendering” setting, which runs the game on a single CPU-core, caused the discrepancy, and once enabled, RTSS introduced the expected 1 frame of delay.

Seeing as the CS:GO still uses DX9, and is a native single-core performer, I opted to test the more modern “Overwatch” this time around, which uses DX11, and features native multi-threaded/multi-core support. Will RTSS behave the same way in a native multi-core game?

Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings

Yes, RTSS still introduces up to 1 frame of delay, regardless of the syncing method, or lack thereof, used. To prove that a -2 FPS limit was enough to avoid the G-SYNC ceiling, a -10 FPS limit was tested with no improvement. The V-SYNC scenario also shows RTSS delay stacks with other types of delay, retaining the FPS-limited V-SYNC’s 1/2 to 1 frame of accumulative delay.

Next up is Nvidia’s FPS limiter, which can be accessed via the third-party “Nvidia Inspector.” Unlike RTSS, it is a driver-level limiter, one further step removed from engine-level. My original tests showed the Nvidia limiter introduced 2 frames of delay across V-SYNC OFF, V-SYNC, and G-SYNC scenarios.

Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings
Blur Buster's G-SYNC 101: Input Latency & Optimal Settings

Yet again, the results for V-SYNC and V-SYNC OFF (“Use the 3D application setting” + in-game V-SYNC disabled) show standard, out-of-the-box usage of both Nvidia’s v1 and v2 FPS limiter introduce the expected 2 frames of delay. The limiter’s impact on G-SYNC appears to be particularly unforgiving, with a 2 to 3 1/2 frame delay due to an increase in maximums at -2 FPS compared to -10 FPS, meaning -2 FPS with this limiter may not be enough to keep it below the G-SYNC ceiling at all times, and it might be worsened by the Nvidia limiter’s own frame pacing behavior’s effect on G-SYNC functionality.

Needless to say, even if an in-game framerate limiter isn’t available, RTSS only introduces up to 1 frame of delay, which is still preferable to the 2+ frame delay added by Nvidia’s limiter with G-SYNC enabled, and a far superior alternative to the 2-6 frame delay added by uncapped G-SYNC.



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kdog1998
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kdog1998

regarding low latency mode and reflex, when exactly do i turn them on or off? I use RTTS and set a fps cap to 65 in a game, my gpu hits that easily so i can maintain smooth gameplay. Do i still need to have a low latency mode enabled? would i set it to on or ultra or neither? in another game, i either exceed or sometimes sit just below my max refresh rate, do i need to use either reflex or low latency mode if available?

I have also noticed something weird when it comes to fps caps and im not sure what causes it, if its my monitor specifically or g sync. In example god of war ragnarok, i was able to hit 160 fps uncapped and when i would rotate my camera it was buttery smooth. But if i added a fps cap, even if it was 157 fps the camera panning was unsmooth and seemed excessively blurry. I tested this by going to a hard to run area, and uncapped my fps. at uncapped 120 fps camera panning was smooth , but if i placed a fps cap at 120 and panned it was wrong weird again. it only happens with a fps cap in place. ive tried it with ultra and on low latency mode and both have the issue, but i have not tried it off completely. I hope this makes sense and doesnt seem like rambling lol

brunobf
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brunobf

I’ve got a weird stuttering and ghosting in some games like Horizon when using FrameGen with G-Sync and V-Sync. I have a Samsung QN85A, 9800X3D, and RTX 5090. Disabling FrameGen solves the problem, but I don’t want to lose the functionality.

iLance1
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iLance1

I used the recommended settings, but when I turn VSync on in Silent Hill F, I get a lot of stuttering. When I turn it off, it runs fine. Does G-Sync still work or not?

Brayqzor
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Brayqzor

I’ve got a weird stuttering on all my games, everytime i move my mouse. I just played today without any issues and after coming back a few hours later, every game stutters rly hard when i move my mouse. i can feel it and see it on the fps indicator. i plumps to like 20 fps everytime the mouse is moving. I have this issue since day one, but only when i stream my screen on discord and it didnt bother me that way but now the issue happens even though i dont stream. again rly weird since i played a few hours ago without any issues. no update was made, as far as im aware off. I found out that Gsync is the issue. when i turn it completly off the stutters dont happen anymore, but i dont want to turn gsynch off. i use the windows and fullscreen mode. I rly need this fixed since almost every game needs mouse input. Anyone had this issue?

My System (Laptop). Ryzen 7 7435HS, RTX 4070

barry12345
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barry12345

Is there any explanation why my CS2 is capping at 200FPS with a 240Hz monitor?

Using Gsync + Vsync (nvcp) + reflex

With Vsync off it will uncap and I get around 300FPS so it should be able to cap at 225 like it does for everyone else?

With Vsync on the FPS is still capped at 200 even with a 225 limit set in nvcp.

barry12345
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barry12345

Overwatch with these settings caps at 239 instead of 225.

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